Baptizing Dead Jews

PRODUCERS NOTE: This show will offend you. If you have strong religious views, you will be offended. I’m offended and Dave and I already ended up yelling at each other over it this morning. I understand what he is saying, but I think that he is missing the point of faith and free practice. You’ve been warned. Also, can you take a few minutes and answer a 5 question survey for me? – Producer Henri

So… I had written and prepped a show, titled “The 42 Allusion,” all about how the number 42 keeps popping up in California when it comes to fixing the roads. It was both a play on the Hitchhikers Guide and a serious look at how regressive taxes pushed by the left in the State never seem to end up doing what they claim the tax will do. Trust me it was brilliant. And boring.

Then a funny thing happened on the way to Frogstar B. I got dragged into an argument over the LDS Church practice of baptism for the dead and how that offends we Jews. Some of us argued that we should just ignore it, that it’s meaningless because “they are wrong.” Others argued that it was a despicable practice because it is both presumptive and offensive in that it disturbs the dead.

Now let me say this up front – THIS IS NOT A THEOLOGICAL DISCUSSION. I really don’t care what you chose to believe. I do care how you apply your beliefs, particularly as they apply to your behavior towards me. But I simply do not care about the theological debate over whether or not there is any efficacy or meaning in a particular action or doctrine that I personally do not accept. It you chose to believe it, good on ‘ya. So keep the theological discussion out of the eMail that you’re about to write me telling me that I am “wrong” and that obviously I am “of the devil.” Oh and that you’ll “be praying for me.”

Mormons have performed this rite of baptism for the dead for years, including, by the by, Adolf Hitler and other Nazi leaders and over that time have included deceased Jews. Many Jews around the globe were offended by this, and that Jews murdered in the Holocaust and other pogroms were being “baptized” by the LDS Church after their deaths. Now, maybe that does not offend you. Fine. Trust me, in the Jewish community, especially those who lean more conservative (not political, religiously) and into orthodoxy, the practice is HIGHLY offensive.

And so, we did what anybody should do. We asked the LDS Church to stop it.

As I have said, I grew up in Utah. Well… I graduated High School in Utah. But from a growing up standpoint, those years were the most influential upon my young life. I love Utah. My best friend lives in Utah and on occasion I make it a point to go back to Utah. It’s beautiful and friendly and relatively inexpensive. Plus it has dinosaurs.

But if you really want to understand me, and why I believe the things and the way that I believe them, you have to go back to late summer 1979 and begin the same journey I took. When you end up where I am, you begin to understand why the practice of baptism for the dead is not just offensive, it’s basically proof that people, regardless of how pious their faith, are just jerks.

And it’s why I adamantly oppose public prayers in schools.


About FTB1(SS)

Plausibly Live is the Official Podcast of The Dave Bowman Show. From 2007 to 2015, Dave was the host of KFIV’s “Afternoons Live” (Later “The Dave Bowman Show”) and the Central Valley’s go-to man for insightful and entertaining analysis of the day's news and events. In 2015, Dave left radio to raise his son and helped to launch the Podcast 99 network (, which features voices and topics from all around the area, the nation, and the world, on a variety of subjects. Re-launching his own show as a podcast, Dave continues his look at the world around him, now without the constraints of terrestrial radio, but still with his eclectic mix of history and common sense. The primary feature element of Plausibly Live is Constitution Thursday, which since 2010 has been a weekly look at the history and impact of the US Constitution. Dave is a US Navy Submariner, a radio talk show host, father, baseball fan, avid reader and a frustrated writer. He has a passion for books, theology, submarines, coffee, tequila, 1970’s music (especially funk!) and is a ToTaL Star Trek geek. Dave being promoted to FTB2(SS) in 1986. Dave being promoted to FTB2(SS) in 1986. He was born in Oklahoma, grew up in Colorado, graduated from Ogden High School (Class of ’81) in Ogden, UT, served for eleven years in the US Navy Submarine fleet, was a Naval Instructor and as a Ballistic Missile Fire Control Technician, he achieved the rank of FTB1(SS) through sorcery and favoritism, but would have been happy staying an FTB2(SS) for life. He was trained as a targeting specialist and Battle Stations Missile Fire Control Supervisor aboard USS Michigan SSBN-727(G) and was trained on two Fire Control Systems, the Mk 98 Mod 0 TRIDENT and the Mk 88 Mod 1 POSEIDON. Later he served as a part of the Fleet Combat Training Center Dam Neck Auxiliary Security Force, which sounds impressive but was really just bait for Seal Team 6 and any Iraqi terrorists who happened to land on the beach in Virginia. He later attended Seminary in Atlanta, GA, then served as a pastor for five years before realizing the massive error of his ways. He then worked in non-Profit management until 2006 when he was hired to do sports for a local talk radio show, eventually moving into the host position in September of 2007. In the fall of 2008, after years of questioning and study, Dave completed the process of conversion to Judaism. In 2009 Dave married Cami, and in 2010 they were blessed with their son, Benjamin, to go along with four daughters, one son-in-law and three grandchildren. In the summer of 2017, Dave and Cami relocated “back home” to Silverdale, WA, where Dave had been stationed when they first met in 1985. From September 2007 to January 2015 Dave was heard each weekday from 3pm to 6pm (Pacific) on Power Talk 1360AM & 1280 in Modesto & Stockton, CA. Today, you can hear his Podcast Show, Plausibly Live, on The Dave Bowman Show website or on The Podcast 99 Network Page.

Posted on April 3, 2017, in 1st Amendment, Dave, Freedom of Religioin, Religion and tagged . Bookmark the permalink. Leave a comment.

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